Hi Fairfield. I've seen a bit of your mapping work around Brisbane lately!
I'd ask permission before you copy details from those reports. We are only really supposed to rely on what is on the ground or that we have been granted permission for this sort of thing.
It's great to get this in the map. I'd like to hear more about how you're going about it, too.
Another benefit of ground surveying (with or without GPS) is seeing that the cycle paths are really what they say they are. I don't think we should give credit for a yellow bicycle painted on a road, especially when it's on a "lane" used for car parking. Governments like us to think this counts towards their ("green", of course) bike path tally. No sane cyclist should feel safe with this arrangement.
I wouldn't have thought I was doing enough edits to get noticed....
First up, fair call on copyright, until I look into it, I'll ditch the "proposed" designations, except for ones that really are likely to happen, such as on the Hale Street Bridge or the Gateway duplication.
As far as the rcn goes, I have sufficient knowledge of cycling infrastructure in (most parts of) Brisbane, activity centres and hotspots for cycling, I can define my own rcn. (and other people can argue with it)
Perhaps the two really major routes, the Pacific Mwy/V1 bikeway and the Western Fwy/Bicentennial bikeway could be considered ncn (national cycle network).
Re the yellow bicycle, I agree that this doesn't deserve the name of 'cycling facility'. A green lane that doesn't keep disappearing would be my minimum requirement for this designation.
However, the connection between the Western Fwy and Bicentennial falls in this sub-standard category, as does part of the route out to University of Queensland. A lot of cyclists use these routes. If these sections were not coded as part of the rcn, it wouldn't be very informative to someone trying to ride around Brisbane.
Ideally, opencycle map would have different linestyles for "rcn superior" and "rcn inferior".
While not the original intention of the lcn/rcn/ncn coding perhaps lcn could be used for the crap bits?
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Comment from David Dean on 25 March 2009 at 02:54
Hi Fairfield. I've seen a bit of your mapping work around Brisbane lately!
I'd ask permission before you copy details from those reports. We are only really supposed to rely on what is on the ground or that we have been granted permission for this sort of thing.
- David
Comment from awesm on 26 March 2009 at 21:40
Hi and welcome, too. We seem to be nearby.
It's great to get this in the map. I'd like to hear more about how you're going about it, too.
Another benefit of ground surveying (with or without GPS) is seeing that the cycle paths are really what they say they are. I don't think we should give credit for a yellow bicycle painted on a road, especially when it's on a "lane" used for car parking. Governments like us to think this counts towards their ("green", of course) bike path tally. No sane cyclist should feel safe with this arrangement.
Good luck!
Comment from Unusual User Name on 26 March 2009 at 23:02
I wouldn't have thought I was doing enough edits to get noticed....
First up, fair call on copyright, until I look into it, I'll ditch the "proposed" designations, except for ones that really are likely to happen, such as on the Hale Street Bridge or the Gateway duplication.
As far as the rcn goes, I have sufficient knowledge of cycling infrastructure in (most parts of) Brisbane, activity centres and hotspots for cycling, I can define my own rcn. (and other people can argue with it)
Perhaps the two really major routes, the Pacific Mwy/V1 bikeway and the Western Fwy/Bicentennial bikeway could be considered ncn (national cycle network).
Re the yellow bicycle, I agree that this doesn't deserve the name of 'cycling facility'. A green lane that doesn't keep disappearing would be my minimum requirement for this designation.
However, the connection between the Western Fwy and Bicentennial falls in this sub-standard category, as does part of the route out to University of Queensland. A lot of cyclists use these routes. If these sections were not coded as part of the rcn, it wouldn't be very informative to someone trying to ride around Brisbane.
Ideally, opencycle map would have different linestyles for "rcn superior" and "rcn inferior".
While not the original intention of the lcn/rcn/ncn coding perhaps lcn could be used for the crap bits?